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astor pl bldg, new york by Raven30412 astor pl bldg, new york by Raven30412
finally.

my 1st big semestral project at the new school: 120 metres high skycraper for Astor Place, Manhattan (near to Soho, almost next to the new Sanaa's New Museum of Contemporary Art).

the main idea is to create a "vertical city in a city", a shell for inside houses, skycraper with functional parks, shops and streets, a working organism. to allow to build building inside the building, even by other architects. every window is 15 or 30 metres high and there's a park and house(s) inside, with very narrow streets between them, going to the inside vertical communication. there is so much to say about it, it took me hundreds of hours of work, designing, thinking it over and over again, but I guess nobody is really reading these comments too closely anyway, especially not when it's too long, so simply if you want to know anything more about it, ask me. Otherwise, just try to enjoy the shape and exterior design, take it as a sculpture in the city, only knowing it's also functional.
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2009
haha, I'm glad it helped you :)
yes, I still like the idea a lot, I hope I'll be able to build something like that one day, even in much smaller size...
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aChairAndI Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2009
i love the idea of buildings inside a building. You have inspired me for my thesis proposal! i maybe would propose a vertical street of houses as opposed from those condominium type buildings, which i hate. it'd be nice to still have a house with a front yard in the midst of the congestion in the city.

you have given me my epiphany! i love you!
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DOGOR60 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2009
WOW! love it!
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hic-et-ubique Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2008
freaking love your design logo.
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HMSpeedFreek Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2008
What sort of floor space is there on each storey?
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HMSpeedFreek Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2008
It is so. :doh:

I'm going to apply there though
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Free-Choice Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2008
very cool design!
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 25, 2008
yes, I must say I see good architecture as "functional sculptures", I love when the buildings look good and interesting, not only work well, I'm not a big fan of functionalism ideas and approach, i think it's over allready. Yes, the functions... it's all on the presentation, but the pictures are too small :( in real the paper had 1x3 meters, it's hard to make a deviantart-sized presentation which works out of it. there are shops, houses, offices, parks, even a big swimming pool and restaurant... but actually the point was to leave some freedom of what and where will be at the end, this had to make it "living", more like real city.

yes, glass panels are huge, there would be used a special system of wires which holds them in place without creating a large construction around... it would be expensive, but it works. the rest is perforated concrete: concrete with relativelly small holes (about 15 cm) which let the sunshine go inside even when it looks like it doesnt during the day from outside. this means that those large windows aren't the only way how the sun goes in, otherwise it would have a lot of dark spaces.

thanks a lot for comment!
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Sinbatollica Featured By Owner May 14, 2008
It is a functional sculpture ... I really think it is very interesting ... window panels 15-30m wow ... Will it reflect the functions inside of it? hierarchy of different facilities? Is it like a concrete skyscraper with glass window panels? I think the materials are debatable though ...
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
yeah, AA is great I guess. but still, japan is choice no.1 for me. i'm so into japanese architecture, Toyo Ito is my absolutelly favorite architect, SANAA and Ando second most fav I'd say... it's simple THE place nowadays in my opinion, it all happens there.
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e-l-u-s-i-v Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
japan. i would love to go there some day. but talking about some good architecture universities, the best of all is AA (ARCHITECTURAL ASSOCIATION in London) but bloody expensive even for mature architects.
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
technical university of Liberec - about 100 km north from prague. it's one of the three main architecture faculties in czech rep. but i believe I'll be able to go somewhere else after finishing bachelor degree, central-europien arch. schools sucks, all of them i'd say. now japan for example... :)
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e-l-u-s-i-v Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
and where do you study now ?
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
i know what are you speaking about, it was exactelly the same at the uni I was for first two semesters... basically everything I did was wrong, becouse it was too "complicated, organic and naive". so I did the only thing possible: changed school (and city), and since that it all great...
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e-l-u-s-i-v Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
i agree in 100%. really.
the problem is that my architecture uni in Warsaw, that i attend to, is really poor..in the rhetoric way. i mean that the creativity and the whole atmosphere is being limited by the whim of the professor. Its hard to make anything really original because traditionalism is spread on the uni. i just want to change uni :) as for now im playing with graphic and photography
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
i found out that the point is to find a way how transform all the graphic design inspiration and enthusiasm into architecture... once you start to see it as something different than design, it's all dead. i started to create arch. basically the same way i do logos and stuff, and it works, it's great fun and i actually started to be keen on it... architecture, design, graphic design, even typography, it's all the same in my opinion - combination of max visual pleasure and function. it's about making the world look and work better in every way possible :)
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
i did two physical models, one 1:500 out of paper (rough model), second 1:100 out of balza wood - but I wasn't able to finish that one, it was incredibely time consuming.

here they are... [link]

:)
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e-l-u-s-i-v Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
heh maybe. but im not that keen on it..
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
thanx dude...
you are? cool!! haven't seen any arch projects in your gallery, upload something! :)
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e-l-u-s-i-v Featured By Owner May 13, 2008
fantastic project man. really.
im studing arichtecture too btw.
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SanjArt Featured By Owner May 6, 2008
:)...!
Yes!, by "realtime" model I meant physical model. :)
So, how? (:
I see what you mean about the poster size.

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Raven30412 Featured By Owner May 4, 2008
hey:)
what do you mean by "realtime" model? physical model, or the "realtime" render?
yes, I did have to put heights and other basic (main) measurements on the poster, they are all there... it's just that in real life, the poster is about 1 x 3 metres big, so here on dA the view is too small and unreadable.
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SanjArt Featured By Owner May 4, 2008
'ello! :)
I'm vertically in an awe, and since my project's deadline is tomorrow, I cannot write a long comment at the moment, but will return, I promise. ;)
Just a few questions at this moment:
1) how did you make a 'realtime' model?
2) didn't you have to put heights and other measurements on the poster?
(we have to)


:glomp: from Belgrade!
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x-m4n Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
tz voleslav toto je brutalne ked sa toto postavi ja tam budem mat atelier
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RafikTheKid Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2008
ö;pet vyborny!!co rikas na soucasnou situaci v politice?
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McJoint Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008
wow I like the shape of building very much :)
and also I like windows on it...it looks so modern >__> great work :)
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myuniverserevolved Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008   Interface Designer
This is really nice, I like the curvature on the facade, makes it a look nicer than your average Cuboid block skyscraper.
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2008
yeah, I'm in second year of architecture/urbanism study program at technical university here in CR.
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fade319 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2008
yup, i'm watching you. :D

you majoring/majored in architecture?
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2008
thank you, glad you like it. stay tuned, new project is comming in about a month and a half.
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fade319 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2008
really nice concept. very clever and well thought of :)
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egoj Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2008
fakt moc pěkný to je:)
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1NNU3NDO Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Really interesting dude, would love to see it in a more realistic context like edited into a photograph
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controversa Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008   Interface Designer
AWESOME
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2008
pure rhinoceros :) rendered in maxwell render.
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DYR-R Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2008
looks awesome. wich program do you use to build that? maybe a combo of archicad and max (or just revit?) i'm curious.
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671kb Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2008
:)
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2008
:) thanks mate, I'm glad you do!
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671kb Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2008
Sick man!

Totally love your design!
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TWatthana Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2008
nice work..
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opticx Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2008
LoL... time is never enough in design isn't it?
face the same thing too =p
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2008
thanks you :) yeah I gotta submit new version with bigger groundplans and sections, these are unreadable.
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2008
yes I was thinking about making the visualisations in collab with some 3D designer, but I had absolutelly no time... Actually many interiors are designed and do exist in 3D, but I didn't render them yet. As for the buildings in the building: I don't think it's not worth it. It creates very specail spaces, and treats one of the main problems of such a building: total anonymousness. Max. amount of families living somehow together in "neighborhood", which still knows each other and create together somehow functional local unit, is cca 40 - 60. Thanks to the system of "houses in house", this building creates these smaller units of socially-comapct comunities, similar to local neighborhoods in american middle-class suburbs. It would be realativelly expensive of course, but there's big demand for uniqe, extraordinary flats in Manhattan / New York today.
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2008
:) I'm really glad you like it!!

yeah, as for human perspective scale, I'm working on it. this version is done in quite extreme rush becouse of the school deadlines.
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speedysparrow Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2008  Professional Artist
cool building
nice design!
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opticx Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2008
This is one sick (as in super BADASS) interpretation of vertical space!

Just wish that there were a human perspective scale...

Although, I'd really like to know how does the building interact with the environment, and it's surroundings. Especially the how the living plants interact with sustainability within the concrete walls... it will emit lots of heat internally esp druing summer. Come to think of it, it's like a giant microwave. try greenlead.com

Anyhow, a :+fav: for me for the awsomeness of idea and development!
Kudos mate!
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Sampdoria Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2008
For 3rd semester this is really good design. What is more important is that its so practical (shapes) and not the standard parabolic towers which are the rage these days.

Great work. I havent been able to read the plans but the visual looks great!
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Dapiana Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2008
awesome concept they gave you! and a very nice response of your part
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Raven30412 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2008
thank you :)
no this is work of 3rd semester, but it's my 1st big semestral project, that means that at 1st and 2nd semester we didn't do do any real big projects like this. Glad you like it!
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floppy-kat Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2008
your work rules. You just reminded me that archicture good be interesting. I am really amazed! This is work of a first semester, postgraduate that is??
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